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V. Penelope Pelizzon's avatar

I'm really interested in the gender & class dynamic here...it seems that the two women who gave off this vibe are both potentially in situations where they're culturally expected to hide (female?) vulnerability to be more "professional"" The first seems to be trying to pass in a white-collar workplace, and the second perhaps masking more to avoid being further taken advantage of in a service job where women's labor is seen as dispensable and is underpaid (which may be the financial parallel to an abusive relationship)? I suppose it would not be surprising that an economic structure that traumatizes people would result in more psychic stress...

Marin Sardy's avatar

Yes, I do think that was very likely part of it with both of the women I've used as examples, in terms of masking their vulnerability! But I will also say that most of the time that I get these vibes, it's been with men. I think the women stick out better in my memory because they're more unusual and because there's no sense of something predatory beneath it, which has commonly been the case when men have given me this feeling—common enough that they all started to blend together. And maybe less interesting to me, so I didn't pause to think it through as thoroughly.

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